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@Count Trashula:

I just want to start off that I'd like to comment on some of the things you mentioned and in no way am I trying to be offensive or overly critical. I just want to point out a different perspective and pick your brain on what your thoughts are on it.

A consequence is result or effect of an action or condition, although it may have a negative connotation in your eyes a child is a "consequence" of penetrative sex.

You mentioned no one should be shamed or punished/paid for with this unwanted outcome - Yet two consenting individuals (with the exception of rape/incest cases) would have had to make a conscious choice to engage in an activity that has a child as a potential outcome. Even if they are acting responsibly with contraceptives a child is still a possibility and has to be taken into consideration. This is why historically sex has been viewed in a negative light in order to curb unwanted pregnancies and the responsibility that comes with it. Sex can be fun and it does have great effects for mental health, but it is a serious action between two people that can have devastating effects financially, emotionally and physically.

Dismissing criticism as "shaming" only enables a person's ability to displace accountability- I mean this only in the sense that when you desensitize people to an actions importance they are likely blame others rather than correcting the action that lead to the result.

I agree with comprehensive sexual education- more information allows a person to make an informed decision which will likely reduce the cases of unwanted pregnancies, raise awareness on sexual health etc.

As for birth control/ prenatal care- No one is responsible or can make medical decisions for another person legally unless they are in guardian situations (child/parent etc.) and so no one should be responsible for another person's contraceptives/prenatal care. The responsibility always falls on the two individuals who have made the decision and agreement to engage in a sexual relationship. Now if there are other people that would like to be generous and help they are more than welcome to, but it shouldn't be demanded or assumed that is should be provided for free.

So yes, sex without planning for pregnancy should be "punished" and criticized because two people made a conscious decision to selfishly seek sexual gratification with a sexual act that guarantees a possibility of a child.

As for abortion - this is probably a very sensitive topic that is not appropriate in this forum/site.

For your conclusion - again, sexual pleasure is nothing to be ashamed about- sexual acts between consenting adults also nothing to be ashamed about.

performing a sexual act that will have an outcome of a child as a possibility when you know you are unable to do it safely, unable to accept or care for a child or make a tough decision regarding whether or not you would put that child up for adoption is something to be ashamed about.

@vengeance: I'll play the devil's advocate on this one.

Sex has two conclusions. Either you get pregnant or you don't.
Typically if you are in a situation where you cannot afford birth control, you are not in a place in your life where you are financially stable enough to have a child and provide for one. Taking the risk of a possible unwanted pregnancy and other complications that come with sex just because you want to get off is selfish and ignorant.

I get it, no one wants to be told what to do and sex is nothing to be demonized between two consenting individuals but there is literally no other outcomes with sex.

Abstinence or engaging in sexual acts that do not include penetration until you can afford birth control or other contraceptives should not be demonized like it has been. Being able to plan your life, being able to do these things shows that you are mature enough emotionally, physically and financially- which affords people to be more successful down the road.

Excluding the more extreme cases like incest/rape, this would dramatically reduce the need for abortions, social services etc.

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