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trying to have a civil conversation about the emotionally charged nature of suicide is nigh impossible in person, let alone online, especially when the person you're trying to engage in a debate with is someone who is suicidal and depressed - by your own claims. how can you reasonably expect an unbiased and civil discussion when the person you're engaging is living dealing with suicide and depression?

debating, like any skill, is one that needs to be honed and practiced over time. there's a reason most if not all official debates take place with a mediator between both parties to keep people on topic and to enforce the guidelines of the debate. most people will never bother to learn and expecting internet randos to approach situations as though they have is folly in itself, tbh. what i'm saying is i don't think some war in the comment section of facebook is the best place to expect a 'civil discussion' over a touchy subject like of the consumption of media and the effects it may have over the mentally ill.

if you don't post screencaps from the conversation, i can't form an unbiased opinion. i do have to say it's bad form to antagonize a mentally ill person then, when you're blocked & unable to contact him anymore, to go to a different site and talk about how he's 'psychotic, suicidal and depressed'. i'm in no way defending the things he's said because they're wrong in any context, but i have to arch a brow at concept the thread seems to push: check out this mentally ill psychopath who didn't agree with me, what a nutjob, am i right?!

additionally, judging by your recount of the situation, the point of the conversation was that 'i think this show has pro-suicidal messages and you are a bad person for supporting it', then what does it matter if you listened to a song? why are you bringing up outside triggers that may promote suicidal urges? you're moving the goalposts yourself - you did not address his point, his point was 'the show has pro-suicidal messages and you are a bad person for supporting it' . the existence of triggers outside the show does not negate his proposition that the show itself has a pro-suicidal message. if you can't debate within the context, then you have already lost the debate you claimed to engage in.

this is a smaller note, but you mentioned your intention was to 'help' him. it's not your responsibility to 'help' others. you trying to 'help', from someone else's perspective, is you massively overstepping your boundaries with a situation you can't possibly think to aid unless you're also his counselor. him not accepting your brand of help doesn't make him worse for it, either.

for future reference, it's probably best to not engage someone when their opening gambit is 'you're pro suicide and nobody will miss you when you're gone'.

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