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Posted in The Venting Machine
Posted 4 years ago
Just posted asking for advice about it. I want to hide. I feel so ashamed and embarrassed of myself.
Whoops, double post. May use this space for a future complaint.
Note to self: Please stop being such a nervous wreck
Whoops, double post. May use this space for a future complaint.
Note to self: Please stop being such a nervous wreck
Posted in The Venting Machine
Posted 4 years ago
Just posted asking for advice about it. I want to hide. I feel so ashamed and embarrassed of myself.
Posted in I feel guilty about my price for my art and I need advice
Posted 4 years ago
Hello. So uh, I don't know why I'm so afraid to ask around for advice here but yeah, I spent an hour wondering whether I should do so after venting in The Undercurrent. (I don't think this is serious enough to be put under Serious Talk, but if I got it wrong I'm so sorry)
So anyway last year I tried out freelancing and when I got an offer from the same company I used to work regularly for, I jumped at it. At that time I had no contract or anything, and I was not confident at all with pricing my own art (before that I just went with whatever was stated on the contract and it was an hourly rate). I didn't even think about how long the company was gonna hire me for, I was just happy to get an offer so I just went ahead and said yes, quickly threw together a sample sheet with prices that wouldn't scare them away, which was this:
What I didn't realize was how the company was gonna stretch out the project for MONTHS instead of giving me the list of what they wanted drawn. During those months I received no pay; I foolishly agreed with them that I'll only get the full payment after EVERYTHING has been drawn and given to them. I got the job but thinking about it now it probably wasn't worth it? During that stretch of time I've had a few breakdowns. Existential crisis in the middle of working for now pay for months is great, ain'tt it? It started on late Aug 2020, and I only received the payment this year, around Feb/early March.
This makes me extra guilty because this year I wanted to give it a go at doing commissions on Twitter, but with a slightly higher price. I still don't know if me charging $15/$16-$20 USD per bustshot is a fucking ripoff, since I charged much lower before that for the previous company I drew for. It's extra discouraging to see people stop responding after I tell them that price amount, hrhhrkjah... I'm sorry if I'm annoying anyone with my shit. I don't know how else or where else to ask advice from and I'm too embarrassed to ask from my irl friends, still mustering the courage to ask them that and show my art.
Anyway here's the bustshots I charged $15-$20 USD for (from Dec 2020): 1 2
RIght now I'm trying to work on improving my stuff, so I believe these ones (most recent this year, 2021).
How do you guys price your commissions? Is there a recommended price? If so what is it? Please help advice!
So anyway last year I tried out freelancing and when I got an offer from the same company I used to work regularly for, I jumped at it. At that time I had no contract or anything, and I was not confident at all with pricing my own art (before that I just went with whatever was stated on the contract and it was an hourly rate). I didn't even think about how long the company was gonna hire me for, I was just happy to get an offer so I just went ahead and said yes, quickly threw together a sample sheet with prices that wouldn't scare them away, which was this:
Simple illustration (black and white) 50 x$10 $500
Complex illustration (black and white) 44 x$15 $660
Simple illustration (coloured) 25 x$12 $300
Complex illustration (coloured) 13 x$20 $260
Colouring only (simple lines) 21 x$2 $42
Colouring only (complex lines) 4 x$5 $20
Complex illustration (black and white) 44 x$15 $660
Simple illustration (coloured) 25 x$12 $300
Complex illustration (coloured) 13 x$20 $260
Colouring only (simple lines) 21 x$2 $42
Colouring only (complex lines) 4 x$5 $20
What I didn't realize was how the company was gonna stretch out the project for MONTHS instead of giving me the list of what they wanted drawn. During those months I received no pay; I foolishly agreed with them that I'll only get the full payment after EVERYTHING has been drawn and given to them. I got the job but thinking about it now it probably wasn't worth it? During that stretch of time I've had a few breakdowns. Existential crisis in the middle of working for now pay for months is great, ain'tt it? It started on late Aug 2020, and I only received the payment this year, around Feb/early March.
This makes me extra guilty because this year I wanted to give it a go at doing commissions on Twitter, but with a slightly higher price. I still don't know if me charging $15/$16-$20 USD per bustshot is a fucking ripoff, since I charged much lower before that for the previous company I drew for. It's extra discouraging to see people stop responding after I tell them that price amount, hrhhrkjah... I'm sorry if I'm annoying anyone with my shit. I don't know how else or where else to ask advice from and I'm too embarrassed to ask from my irl friends, still mustering the courage to ask them that and show my art.
Anyway here's the bustshots I charged $15-$20 USD for (from Dec 2020): 1 2
RIght now I'm trying to work on improving my stuff, so I believe these ones (most recent this year, 2021).
How do you guys price your commissions? Is there a recommended price? If so what is it? Please help advice!
Posted in What are you listening to?
Posted 4 years ago
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Posted in The Venting Machine
Posted 4 years ago
Oh wow I'm alive, yes wow amazing.
So I've been trying to get myself started in doing art commissions on twitter, and I managed to have a few commission me there. I priced my bustshot drawings around $15/$16 to $20 depending on the complexity and now I'm not so sure if I'm overpricing them or not. Didn't get anymore confirmed commissions ever since I stuck with that price for my art.
I decided to close my coms at the moment to focus on bettering my art and uh. Now I'm not so sure what the new pricing should be. It sucks to see people turned off by the price. I already made the mistake of lowering my prices so fucking low for my previous hiring, which was basically this:
Simple illustration (black and white) 50 x$10 $500
Complex illustration (black and white) 44 x$15 $660
Simple illustration (coloured) 25 x$12 $300
Complex illustration (coloured) 13 x$20 $260
Colouring only (simple lines) 21 x$2 $42
Colouring only (complex lines) 4 x$5 $20
---------
$1782
This had me severely burned out and had me having a few mental breakdowns, not just because of like, thinking I wasn't worth much but also because of how long the company I previously worked for STRETCHED OUT THE PROJECT. Like holy shit I thought they were going to guidelines for the drawings they wanted right off the bat, but no. They stretched it out from late August 2020 all the way to when I finally got paid, which is like around Feb/March 2021. Made so many mistakes, like blindingly accepting their offer to hire me without asking specifics and also standing my ground in terms of payment, and then there's dealing with the people who keep fucking coming back to edit over and over just because they didn't specify what they wanted in the first place.
I'm just- u GhH FREELANCING IS PAIN
Edit: Anyway I uh... I don't know if I should ask around here for advice and whatnot, I feel like I'm already annoying people with it so o k a y.
So I've been trying to get myself started in doing art commissions on twitter, and I managed to have a few commission me there. I priced my bustshot drawings around $15/$16 to $20 depending on the complexity and now I'm not so sure if I'm overpricing them or not. Didn't get anymore confirmed commissions ever since I stuck with that price for my art.
I decided to close my coms at the moment to focus on bettering my art and uh. Now I'm not so sure what the new pricing should be. It sucks to see people turned off by the price. I already made the mistake of lowering my prices so fucking low for my previous hiring, which was basically this:
Simple illustration (black and white) 50 x$10 $500
Complex illustration (black and white) 44 x$15 $660
Simple illustration (coloured) 25 x$12 $300
Complex illustration (coloured) 13 x$20 $260
Colouring only (simple lines) 21 x$2 $42
Colouring only (complex lines) 4 x$5 $20
---------
$1782
This had me severely burned out and had me having a few mental breakdowns, not just because of like, thinking I wasn't worth much but also because of how long the company I previously worked for STRETCHED OUT THE PROJECT. Like holy shit I thought they were going to guidelines for the drawings they wanted right off the bat, but no. They stretched it out from late August 2020 all the way to when I finally got paid, which is like around Feb/March 2021. Made so many mistakes, like blindingly accepting their offer to hire me without asking specifics and also standing my ground in terms of payment, and then there's dealing with the people who keep fucking coming back to edit over and over just because they didn't specify what they wanted in the first place.
I'm just- u GhH FREELANCING IS PAIN
Edit: Anyway I uh... I don't know if I should ask around here for advice and whatnot, I feel like I'm already annoying people with it so o k a y.
Posted in The Venting Machine
Posted 5 years ago
It's been a while. Today I've been notified by a mutual (K) in Roblox that someone (NB) asked her to tell me to add her(NB) to my friend list. Apparently she was someone I met once in probably Bloxburg a long time ago and never got around to accepting her request. Reason being is that I don't really feel comfortable most of the time with stuff like that, unless we had a good time chatting or whatever. It weirded me out that NB kept telling K that I knew her; in reality I actually forgot about her until I went to check her profile, and I noticed a button that said 'accept request'.
Here's the part that really made me didn't want to go through with adding NB to my friend list. According to K, NB kept following her in games she was in just to do the friend thing with me. It disturbed me by how persistent NB was and I didn't like how she wouldn't leave K alone. I don't know if I'm being a paranoid fuck or what, but I got a bit of a stalker-ish vibe from NB. Also there's this sob story NB had about being in a hospital and her sister deleting her friends while she was hospitalized. Somehow I'm not buying it, and I don't think I recall ever adding her in the first place. If I did, I may have removed her from my list; I have this tendency to remove anyone whom I have no spoken to or with since our first encounter.
This sounds so childish, I know. But I can't help but feel creeped out by NB based on how she treated K (according to K). I advised K to avoid NB and she said she would block NB.
Additional notes: Apparently when K unfriended her ( while and after we discussed what we were gonna do since both of us felt uncomfortable with NB), NB joined her in game and demanded something like, "WHY U DO THAT?" K also described NB as a little odd. If that and her recent behaviors don't count as red flags, I don't know what would.
Here's the part that really made me didn't want to go through with adding NB to my friend list. According to K, NB kept following her in games she was in just to do the friend thing with me. It disturbed me by how persistent NB was and I didn't like how she wouldn't leave K alone. I don't know if I'm being a paranoid fuck or what, but I got a bit of a stalker-ish vibe from NB. Also there's this sob story NB had about being in a hospital and her sister deleting her friends while she was hospitalized. Somehow I'm not buying it, and I don't think I recall ever adding her in the first place. If I did, I may have removed her from my list; I have this tendency to remove anyone whom I have no spoken to or with since our first encounter.
This sounds so childish, I know. But I can't help but feel creeped out by NB based on how she treated K (according to K). I advised K to avoid NB and she said she would block NB.
Additional notes: Apparently when K unfriended her ( while and after we discussed what we were gonna do since both of us felt uncomfortable with NB), NB joined her in game and demanded something like, "WHY U DO THAT?" K also described NB as a little odd. If that and her recent behaviors don't count as red flags, I don't know what would.
Posted in Change 1 Letter!
Posted 5 years ago
Rile.
Posted in Continue on letter game!
Posted 5 years ago
Yearning.
Posted in Magical Item Dispenser
Posted 5 years ago
Gets: Tail's dummy rings from Sonic '06
Inserts: A paperclip
Inserts: A paperclip
Posted in Whats the most disturbing thing about the AAY
Posted 5 years ago
Those wispy things on PurpdaBurpPurp's sides? Yeah, they're not detachable.
Posted in I'm new :)
Posted 5 years ago
@LinLin:
Btw, if you want to notify someone that you've replied to their post, you can click on either the "Quote" or "@Mention" button on top of their post! Careful of spamming though lolll. There should be a thread for rules in each forum section.
SOrry I sound too dang formal, I can't help iTA RGH
Btw, if you want to notify someone that you've replied to their post, you can click on either the "Quote" or "@Mention" button on top of their post! Careful of spamming though lolll. There should be a thread for rules in each forum section.
SOrry I sound too dang formal, I can't help iTA RGH
Posted in How many Topics do you have?
Posted 5 years ago
It's been a year or so since my acc creation. I still have 3 topics to this day. WHOOPEE
Posted in Random facts about you!
Posted 5 years ago
I like flowers, but I'm bad at taking care of my own plants in my room. I'm so sorry, plants.
Posted in Count to 1 million
Posted 5 years ago
2,865
Two thousand, eigh hundred and sixty-five.
Two thousand, eigh hundred and sixty-five.